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TOPIC: Sabby Holdings as of 12/31/2017?

Sabby Holdings as of 12/31/2017? 06 Feb 2018 10:03 #11159

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As we all know- Sabby was probably the biggest toxic financier of Cytori of the past years. When Cytori turned to Sabby et al for money they always obliged with deep discounts to the market price and by nature of the game managed to get rid of the acquired shares either in front running or let´s say "artificial spikes". And surely all the time with handsome profits.

As we know they were sold out at 30/9/2017- than came the RO in November- question to all of you-

1. did they participate?
2. will they have shares left at year-end?

Am curious as to the thoughts.

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Sabby Holdings as of 12/31/2017? 06 Feb 2018 10:20 #11160

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Sabby Holdings as of 12/31/2017? 06 Feb 2018 10:27 #11161

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myownhedgefund wrote: Fas
Didn't they file their own 13G on Jan 4 2018 ?
www.streetinsider.com/SEC+Filings/Form+SC+13GA+CYTORI+THERAPEUTICS%2C+Filed+by%3A+SABBY+MANAGEMENT%2C+LLC/13655527.html


If they did participate significantly and have not yet converted their preferred shares, I am not sure that the amount of the preferred shares would have been required in the filing above.

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Sabby Holdings as of 12/31/2017? 06 Feb 2018 11:18 #11163

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Ooops- forgot about that - yes- on that day the Azaya and Sabby filings were reported by Cytori too.

Oh well- ignore my post on Sabby- we know.

But my conclusion here- shareholding info is all a big mess- Rodney has a point - are Series B holding included or excluded. Since you can exert control with them, I guess they should. From the filings one can conclude they are not. The Sabby and Swissquote filings were signed on the same date (Jan 4) but imply from the ownership percentage, totally different OS.:really:

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Sabby Holdings as of 12/31/2017? 06 Feb 2018 11:57 #11164

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fas wrote: Ooops- forgot about that - yes- on that day the Azaya and Sabby filings were reported by Cytori too.

Oh well- ignore my post on Sabby- we know.

But my conclusion here- shareholding info is all a big mess- Rodney has a point - are Series B holding included or excluded. Since you can exert control with them, I guess they should. From the filings one can conclude they are not. The Sabby and Swissquote filings were signed on the same date (Jan 4) but imply from the ownership percentage, totally different OS.:really:


The Sabby filing used o/s shares of 35,141 while the Swiss filing used 46,167 - the difference is approximately the amount of the two Swiss holdings.

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Sabby Holdings as of 12/31/2017? 06 Feb 2018 12:27 #11165

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correct- the OS number of 34.176 +1028 from Sabby to 36+Mio kind of fits too. Looks like you were right the Swiss holdings most likely stem from the RO.

I presume Perkins plays a role here too, but the Swiss most likely converted to trigge the action on the Board level- question is, when is the next card put on the table and what hides in the 18 Mio unconverted Series B- I know only Rodney and Fas are included, but they dont count :grin:

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